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Pause) Is there a total negation or is it always partial? Do you follow what I mean? Do I negate attachment, then negate jealousy, then negate all the hurt, and so on? You see, that way is endless. Right? PJ: Yes. K: So, is there a total negation of disorder? (Pause) Q: Sir, you are speaking of an action—but that ‘action’ cannot be a movement, because movement implies time. K: Yes, I know, but I just used that word. I used that word—I can use any word—to imply a negation of disorder which does not entail a wanting of order, which does not have a movement towards order.

So, what will? Let’s discuss it; let’s go into it. PJ: That is why I say, sir, that there is only one instrument that you leave free. That is, you allow only one instrument the possibility of being free of taint. K: The senses? PJ: Yes, the senses. You have blocked every other instrument... 36 K: Yes, we have blocked every hole that the human mind has invented. Have we also blocked the senses? PJ: I see that when the senses identified with thought operate, they only strengthen the structure which is the basic cause of confusion.

PJ: Well, remove the word ‘individual’. But experience, confusion, chaos, anxiety, fear, anger—when you talk of the total fact of life... K: No, no. My point is: Can thought be aware of the totality of consciousness? That’s what we said. PJ: And we said that it cannot be aware. K: Yes, it cannot be. So, now, what is the question you are raising? PJ: You see, this has come about because we raised the initial question of what the distinction between consciousness, the mind, the brain and thought is.

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